http://www.filehippo.com/download_java_runtime

Warning: Go to Add/Remove Programs and un-install Java before running the update as the install fails:
Error: 25099 during Java installation
http://java.com/en/download/help/error_25099.xml

The installer removes Java from Add/Remove Programs but does not remove C:\Program Files\Java jre6 Folder correctly.

The jre6 Folder should be removed manually with Windows Explorer then the Sun Java install works correctly.

aaa... you active in this forum,Yo and do you forget your friends in Piriform ?

I was banned!

Why do you think that there were so many updates to CCleaner having to do with IE8?

I brought up problems with IE8 and CCleaner that they did not like which they have now recognised and fixed.

I was critical of Wipe Free space and multiple pass wiping that was starting to make CCleaner a bit bloated as there are equal if not better tools to make the hard drive safe for disposal but I guess if you are paranoid that the CIA, FBI or Intepol need to look at your hard drive during a raid then they are good.

Hey Kenny . Guess you didn't see this thread? By the way, according to the release notes this update only fixes compatibility with Vista SP2 and Server 2008 SP2 but contains no security updates or bug fixes so anyone not using one of those OS's can stick with 6 Update 13.

I am so used to Sun Java being updated due to security issues that this was only a compatibility update never crossed my mind.

Maybe this could be merged into the topic you pointed out?

Yeah, it's kind of a wierd place for it anyway considering that in the past the primary reason for having such a topic stickied in a security forum is to prevent infections like Vundo on users' systems. It's not security software in and of itself, but keeping it patched and older versions removed is certainly security related.

Exile:

Hmm I am confused. It looks like the new Java update isn't compatible with the updated IE. Is this the case? I was going to update my Java tonight

You can get it here.


From here.

This is the darndest thing. I have JavaSE 1.6.0.13 on my machine, which has Vista HP 32bit with service pack 2 installed (SP2 was installed last week). I see here that update 14 applies to Vista SP2 folk, so I went to control panel > Java > Update > Update now, and it came back with the message that my system was running the most up-to-date version. (This is how I usually update Java when I see a posting somewhere that a new version or definition file has been released, and it always downloads the new file). So then I went to the Java website (www.java.com/en/) and checked the "what version do I have" test thing, and it came back with the message that I have the most up-to-date version installed. I checked to see if it had surreptiously updated me just by visiting the test page, but I still appear to have update 13 showing on my "about Java" and on my FF plugin. I went to the downloads section of the Java website and it shows update 13 as being the latest version! This really perplexes me! Any thoughts guys?

Could it be that it is not picking up that I have SP2 installed? The reason I wonder this is I had some trouble installing SP2. Back story: I got the update for SP2 via Windows Update but after 1hr of trying to install it then flicked to "Cannot install Service Pack 2 : Reverting back to previous settings". After it did this it showed SP1 in my "system information" screen, yet most peculiarly in "View Installed Updates" on Windows Update it showed "Service Pack 2 successfully installed!" I got on the phone to Microsoft and they suspected a corrupt download/installation and got me to download the SP2 file directly from the MS website and then run it in safe mode. This worked like a charm. The only fly in the ointment is that Windows Update subsequently failed to recognise SP2 on my system when it scanned it (i.e. when checking for updates) even though I did get a screen to say it SP2 was installed successfully, and my system information is now showing SP2. I rebooted, rescanned, you name it... but Windows Update continued to tell me that I need to download and install SP2. The Microsoft helpdesk man got me to hide the update as a workaround, but he said that will only work temporarily since it is an "important" update. So he then got me to install some kind of SP2 blocker tool, which runs a command to block SP2 downloads/installation. I guess the reason I mention my SP2 installation issues, is that if Windows Update is too stoopid to see SP2 installed on my system, could my other software (like Java) be too? I highly doubt this, but I am a nurse and not a computer expert, hence putting the thought out there. (My MBAM scan logs show Windows 6.0.6002 Service Pack 2 since the installation of SP2 in safe mode, so it is being picked up by some software...)

Has anyone else with Vista SP2 tried updating via the Java console in the control panel and recieved the same message that update 13 is the latest update? I haven't update via the link above, since I don't appear to be having any issues with Java functionality since upgrading to SP2, and it doesn't contain security fixes, so...

Apologies for the lengthy post!

6 Update 14 hasn't been rolled out to their regular update servers yet. That's the reason the getjava page and your manual update don't show it yet. If you want to install it, remove 6 Update 13 and visit this page and select the version appropriate for your system using the drop down menu.

Ohhh! Well that certainly explains it. I'll wait until my Java updater finds it and then update. Thanks for explaining that - it had me quite confused.

You're very welcome . I'm sure it will be on the normal update servers within a few days. They always release Java updates to the main Sun site first, then usually within a week or so they update it on the normal update servers.

Hopefully they'll also fix their installer so that removal of previous version won't be necessary as it was supposed to be a new feature starting back in version 10, but still seems to be flaky now 4 versions later.

That's why I run Secunia Personal Software Inspector (PSI) to detect vulnerable versions of Java:
http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/personal

PSI is good to detect downlevel installations of Adobe products that have flaky removals plus it is a quick way to see if the system is up to date with the latest versions of installed software.

The BETA: 1.0.0.7 release has some nice features and supports more languages.

Plus their forum is quite active:
http://secunia.com/community/forum

Kaspersky AV and IS use Secunia's database in their scanners to detect security vulnerabilities . I don't bother with it though, I simply have the url's for Java, Flash Player and Reader etc in my favorites and I check them every so often to see if the version I'm using is the latest. If it's not, I remove what I've got and install the new version.

1. I wish they would stop updating so often and just get the critical things fixed so we're not forced to update all the time
2. It must be rolled out to their servers now cos I got an update mesg to do it in my system tray icon

That's interesting.... I just tried to manually update via the Java console in the control panel just now (again!) and it still says that I have the latest version (13). I see update 14 has been released to the java.com website now too, as opposed to when I posted earlier in this thread. Perhaps Java are releasing the update in 'waves' so as not to overlaod the servers?

(I prefer to update via the console rather than via the web).

That's certainly possible. If you'd like you can still use the offline installer I linked to earlier. Either way, you should also go through Add\Remove programs in Control Panel and make sure there aren't any older versions of Java still on your system for the sake of security.

Got a little tool for those programs that get stuck in add/remove in the CP, I believe its still free.
http://www.download3000.com/download_16103.html

Hijackthis can remove dead entries safely already - HJTInstall.exe

Please start HJT and click on Open the Misc Tools section
If you need to, scroll down a little to the Advanced Settings (these will not be saved)
Find and click on Open Uninstall Manager the last button just above that
Select the entry you want to remove and click on the Delete this entry button

That should now be gone from the Add/Remove programs.

Thank you thats good to know. In the win 95 years. I would remove something from the Startmenu/ all programs & still found it stuck in the program files... so I used a tool, something like the one I posted. But I have to copy & paste those instructions.
even though I'm a little wiser about how to remove a program now...

I like RevoUninstaller for that kind of stuff. If it's just a leftover entry in Add/Remove, I use the uninstaller in CCleaner because it has the "Delete Entry" option.

I never did ask after all these years, why theres an uninstaller in the Start\All Programs\ Program\--then under the program an uninstaller? Lots of message boards back in the days of early windows. pc users would think the program was gone. Only to find in program files they could not remove some leftover files... (that brings back memories)

Yeah, the uninstaller in the start menu should be a shortcut to the uninstaller in the Program Files folder (and generally is), but many programs don't uninstall as cleanly as they should.

@ exile360

yep and thats what happend... drove pc users crazy on removing leftover files back around win95

Hi exile360, yardbird and AdvancedSetup

Thanks for your replies to my last entry in this thread. I didn't download the download300.com tool or Hijackthis because the only version of Java I could find in my control panel had was version 6, update 13. About 4 or 5 months ago I went through my control panel and uninstalled all of the previous Java versions (I think I had about 3!) and I also disabled all of the old plugins in FF & IE. It's nice to see that Java finally automatically uninstalls old versions when it updates now! AdvancedSetup - was that the reason you suggested downloading HJT, i.e. to get rid of any old versions still lurking in my control panel/system that might be preventing me from updating via the console? Apologies for my ignorance, I'm just not sure what you meant by "dead entries".

I pressed update in the console again this morning, and it STILL tells me I have the latest platform installed, i.e. version 6 update 13. As others appear to be getting Java automatic updates and update 14 appears to have been released ages ago now, I'm beginning to suspect that my Java Updater is faulty. In the end I bit the bullet and just manually downloaded it from java.com. "About" in the console now shows version 6, update 14 build 1.6.0_14-b08, and I've confirmed it is working correctly and using the correct version in IE8 & FF on the "verify installation" page on the Java website (though I had to disable NoScript temporarily do so in FF). Looks like I'm sorted now. It will be interesting to see if I have similar issues updating from the console next time Java release an update....

Thanks for your suggestions and everything.

I think the reason it never offered 6 update 14 is because the update was more to correct potential issues with Vista and Server 2008 systems running Service Pack 2. Also, yes, he was implying that you remove old entries (the leftovers) from previous Java versions with HijackThis, but disabling them in your browser is sufficient as well .

@ catscomputer:

I told my friend to update and she said the same thing happened to her. This was yesterday.

Yeah that could be right, only I do have Vista + SP2! Weird...

Thanks exile360

Oh? Does she have Vista with SP2 as well do you know? (The update was targetted for Vista +SP2 & Server 2008 + SP2users).

Thanks

Yeah, it's odd. Either way, this update included no security related patches or anything so it wasn't nearly as critical as most Java updates typically are. That could also be why they aren't forcing it out.

*nods*

I'll just chalk it up to one of life's unsolved mysteries I think. They happen, esp where computers are involved... well, mine anyway!

@ catscomputer

I am so sorry, I didn't see this until just now!

she is running Vista and more likely than not its Service Pack 2; I'll check with her next time I catch her on IM.

Has it still not updated for you?

Please rename this topic to Java Runtime Enviroment

http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

I got my pop up to install the lastest version but when I clicked install I got a message saying "failed to download required installation files" is this because I have NoScript and if so how do I update then?

You can grab it from the link posted by YoKenny, it will remove the previous version when you install the new one .

I do not seem to have java enabled since getting NS, I unchecked the "forbid java" in it but neither the site nor the pop up says it is enabled!

Hi, JavaScript is required for Java detection, it has to be enabled (same for flash plugins, btw).

You can check here (it is very fast) :
http://www.javatester.org/version.html

I know its unenabled I just cannot work out how to enable it

Huh ? I'm missing an episode. If needed, download and update using another browser. I use to download Java directly from YoKenny1's page.
This way no need for nothing special to get my updates (then JavaRa removes the old versions) since there is only a setup file to download (I use the offline one).

Maybe I didn't understand exactly the problem, since I can't see where the popup is, but the hosting or detecting domains (there are often several domains to accept) must be ok in NoScript in order to proceed.

This forum is for announcements - if you need help on an update or repair please post in the PC Help forum.

Thanks

sorry thanks for your help.